Posted by Kazper at 6:31pm Jan 8 '07If you see "evil" everywhere except in the mirror... then perhaps you don't see anything at all...
I jump back and forth so much I make myself dizzy.
We must be aware of the possibility of deception. Of deceivers mixing truth with fiction to try and cause addiction.
You must bind yourself at times and when you make a mistake (and you will) you must pick up your bindings, and start spinnin'.
I think the reason we convey anything is to try and cause a desired effect. So, ultimately, the reason we convey anything is for our own pleasure.
I think plain speak (or at least my definition of it) is... when one conveys truths... trying to cause an effect other than to insult or manipulate or [other like things].
I can definitely see a world where everyone can plain speak. I can definitely see a relationship where my partner and I can plain speak. I want my chick to tell me if I ain't pleasin' her, sexually for example, and what I gotta do to get the job done. But nicely. With no intent to bitch me. If she wants me to get hair (lol) I wanna know. I wouldn't mind some hair myself. (They really gotta invent a pill, man. ... Actually, I think they already did... ... They do indeed have pills. I may have hair in a couple of months! :))
"Say what you mean. Mean what you say." I understand this better. Things would be much clearer if we had to do this. I think people would speak less too. One reason being most of us don't like to insult directly. Imagine if one wasn't allowed to beat around the bush to insult because the language just didn't allow it... Imagine a language that didn't allow... contrasting modifiers that are hard to explain and not always easy to recognize like [intonation] that is used to indicate insult but one had to... directly say ["I insult you"]. If we just didn't allow anything that is not always clear to spring up people just wouldn't assume the specific pleasure sought by the conveyer no matter the conveyer's tone or gestures. A conveyer may have a negative intent that they are expressiong ambiguously but what would be the point in insulting one who doesn't know they're being insulted (I do see people doing this though and getting something out of it but primarily an insulter wants the insulted to know they are being insulted or to have others know of the insult.)
Also: I very much like the idea of not having to show or use tone of voice to indicate excitement.
I think there's too much ambiguity possible with [intonation] and given my slight mental problems where I think nearly everything is about me- I wouldn't mind some clarity!
Some possible words in my eventual langauge:
[Good morning] = I desire that you have a day filled with pleasures that do not violate and that your pursuit and capture of them brings pleasure to others.
[Good night] = I desire that you have dreams filled with pleasures that do not violate and that enlighten you. I desire also that your sleep replenishes you and that you wake up refreshed and anticipating a pleasure filled day.
[Farewell/so long] = I desire that you have a life/existence filled with pleasures that do not violate and that your pursuit and capture of them brings pleasure to others.
[Would you like to go out #1] = I desire to learn a little about you and for you to learn a little about me and if we still desire each other I then desire to learn alot about you and for you to learn alot about me and if we still desire eachother I then desire that a true friendship can be created and that in this friendship we are completely at east with eachother and that we learn and play (pursue and capture pleasures) together.
[Would you like to go out #2] = I think I desire a partner. A partner with whom I am completely at ease and who is completely at ease with me. A partner with whom I can share everything and who can share everything with me. I desire to learn if this desire is true and if this partner is you.
[How are you doing] = You possess [I request that you name emotion]
~Shawn Savoie~
~Ottawa, Ontario, Canada~
I jump back and forth so much I make myself dizzy.
We must be aware of the possibility of deception. Of deceivers mixing truth with fiction to try and cause addiction.
You must bind yourself at times and when you make a mistake (and you will) you must pick up your bindings, and start spinnin'.
I think the reason we convey anything is to try and cause a desired effect. So, ultimately, the reason we convey anything is for our own pleasure.
I think plain speak (or at least my definition of it) is... when one conveys truths... trying to cause an effect other than to insult or manipulate or [other like things].
I can definitely see a world where everyone can plain speak. I can definitely see a relationship where my partner and I can plain speak. I want my chick to tell me if I ain't pleasin' her, sexually for example, and what I gotta do to get the job done. But nicely. With no intent to bitch me. If she wants me to get hair (lol) I wanna know. I wouldn't mind some hair myself. (They really gotta invent a pill, man. ... Actually, I think they already did... ... They do indeed have pills. I may have hair in a couple of months! :))
"Say what you mean. Mean what you say." I understand this better. Things would be much clearer if we had to do this. I think people would speak less too. One reason being most of us don't like to insult directly. Imagine if one wasn't allowed to beat around the bush to insult because the language just didn't allow it... Imagine a language that didn't allow... contrasting modifiers that are hard to explain and not always easy to recognize like [intonation] that is used to indicate insult but one had to... directly say ["I insult you"]. If we just didn't allow anything that is not always clear to spring up people just wouldn't assume the specific pleasure sought by the conveyer no matter the conveyer's tone or gestures. A conveyer may have a negative intent that they are expressiong ambiguously but what would be the point in insulting one who doesn't know they're being insulted (I do see people doing this though and getting something out of it but primarily an insulter wants the insulted to know they are being insulted or to have others know of the insult.)
Also: I very much like the idea of not having to show or use tone of voice to indicate excitement.
I think there's too much ambiguity possible with [intonation] and given my slight mental problems where I think nearly everything is about me- I wouldn't mind some clarity!
Some possible words in my eventual langauge:
[Good morning] = I desire that you have a day filled with pleasures that do not violate and that your pursuit and capture of them brings pleasure to others.
[Good night] = I desire that you have dreams filled with pleasures that do not violate and that enlighten you. I desire also that your sleep replenishes you and that you wake up refreshed and anticipating a pleasure filled day.
[Farewell/so long] = I desire that you have a life/existence filled with pleasures that do not violate and that your pursuit and capture of them brings pleasure to others.
[Would you like to go out #1] = I desire to learn a little about you and for you to learn a little about me and if we still desire each other I then desire to learn alot about you and for you to learn alot about me and if we still desire eachother I then desire that a true friendship can be created and that in this friendship we are completely at east with eachother and that we learn and play (pursue and capture pleasures) together.
[Would you like to go out #2] = I think I desire a partner. A partner with whom I am completely at ease and who is completely at ease with me. A partner with whom I can share everything and who can share everything with me. I desire to learn if this desire is true and if this partner is you.
[How are you doing] = You possess [I request that you name emotion]
~Shawn Savoie~
~Ottawa, Ontario, Canada~
Re: Ruminations. - Kazper