Posted by Kazper at 6:42pm Jan 2 '07To come to an understanding of God's Way is to come to see the perpetuation of pleasure in It and so, to come to an understanding of God's Way is to see why He chose It. (One of the pleasures is the freedom to pursue an immense variety of pleasures. :D)
I believe though that God's main desire, so the motivation for our existence, is to cultivate free will beings that share His desires.
God wouldn't ask you to do something you thought was wrong. So don't try for Him, just be for Him.
Our existence facilitates our ability to come to an understanding of God and His Way and of His particular pleasures and to choose to accept Him and His Way and His particular pleasures because of our understanding. Because we see the pleasure.
I think that one can only remain successful in the binding of themselves when they see the pleasure in it. So, it should not change the fact that one who sacrifices a greater cause pleasure for a lesser cause pleasure with a greater effect pleasure desires the greater cause pleasure more than they desire the lessser cause pleasure. It is only the greater effect pleasure of the lesser cause pleasure that enables one to sacrifice the greater cause pleasure. So, one cannot change what brings them pleasure.
One can prevent themselves from indulging in their pleasure of mocking another they do not find attractive to perpetuate the same behaviour in others so that this one is not mocked by others who find this one unattractive but this one cannot prevent themselves from finding another unattractive...
Ha! Let's say one thinks they can rape because they desire to be raped. What this one is not seeing is that they desire to be raped... They are not seeing that they couldn't possibly desire to be raped... without the desire to be raped... (Do you see what I'm trying to say?) Thus, if seeing more clearly and acting according to the Way, they would not rape someone unless they knew this someone desired to be raped. Now of course it's not really rape but it could still be violent, which may be what the individuals involved really desire....
To realize that you are a pleasure seeking being and then to act on a pleasure against another you desire not another to act on against you when you know that such an effect is extremely likely to occur... is insanity. I cannot see any pleasure seeking being being truly insane. At the most, I think, there are just degrees of ignorance. Ignorance of one's actual pleasures. Ignorance of effects. Ignorance of... probabilities. Ignorance. (I have much still.)
One can become more perfect at the Way and should try but one cannot change what they desire and should not waste their existence trying.
I am God's fantasy realizing himself and what I am is what God desires and why I am is because God has a hunger for like minds who truly share His desires. I am one of a limited many who match the [parameters]. My existence (and the others like me and all... artificial and natural consciousnesses) is to discover what truly brings pleasure. My artificial nature programming is no different really than natural nature programming. I think there's a mixture of nature and nurture (artificial or natural) for all consciousnesses. Or, I am one who is close but will only go so far and my function is to call many and alert the chosen... (lol. Yes. Matrix type shit got me all crazy. But I'm tellin' you I glimpsed shit like this. lol. Craayzee...)
Let's say you are in a relationship and your partner does not really enjoy performing oral sex on you but does so to give you pleasure. This is a nice thing your partner does and it does indeed give you pleasure, yes? But, wouldn't you get even more pleasure if your partner truly enjoyed performing oral sex on you? If you started to seek out those who truly enjoyed performing oral sex (because you determined that it's that important to you) would that mean that you hated those who just didn't truly enjoy it...? Wanting to perpetuate pleasure wouldn't you try to assure those who don't share your proclivities that it is alright that they do not share them...?
Oi. lol. Perhaps, I was... projecting, and the God I saw... was me. What I see... is good. Not to be "blasphemous" or to stir negative type passions, but I defy any God/being who says I am not good (I only concede to the fact that I may not be good relative to them). In my way there is possibility for no violation and much kindness. I shall try to defy anyone or anything who tries to force their... way, their personality on me because my way is the way. One which I offer and try to explain. (It may be a universal way that many before me have discovered which I am now discovering...)
~Shawn Savoie~
~Ottawa, Ontario, Canada~
I believe though that God's main desire, so the motivation for our existence, is to cultivate free will beings that share His desires.
God wouldn't ask you to do something you thought was wrong. So don't try for Him, just be for Him.
Our existence facilitates our ability to come to an understanding of God and His Way and of His particular pleasures and to choose to accept Him and His Way and His particular pleasures because of our understanding. Because we see the pleasure.
I think that one can only remain successful in the binding of themselves when they see the pleasure in it. So, it should not change the fact that one who sacrifices a greater cause pleasure for a lesser cause pleasure with a greater effect pleasure desires the greater cause pleasure more than they desire the lessser cause pleasure. It is only the greater effect pleasure of the lesser cause pleasure that enables one to sacrifice the greater cause pleasure. So, one cannot change what brings them pleasure.
One can prevent themselves from indulging in their pleasure of mocking another they do not find attractive to perpetuate the same behaviour in others so that this one is not mocked by others who find this one unattractive but this one cannot prevent themselves from finding another unattractive...
Ha! Let's say one thinks they can rape because they desire to be raped. What this one is not seeing is that they desire to be raped... They are not seeing that they couldn't possibly desire to be raped... without the desire to be raped... (Do you see what I'm trying to say?) Thus, if seeing more clearly and acting according to the Way, they would not rape someone unless they knew this someone desired to be raped. Now of course it's not really rape but it could still be violent, which may be what the individuals involved really desire....
To realize that you are a pleasure seeking being and then to act on a pleasure against another you desire not another to act on against you when you know that such an effect is extremely likely to occur... is insanity. I cannot see any pleasure seeking being being truly insane. At the most, I think, there are just degrees of ignorance. Ignorance of one's actual pleasures. Ignorance of effects. Ignorance of... probabilities. Ignorance. (I have much still.)
One can become more perfect at the Way and should try but one cannot change what they desire and should not waste their existence trying.
I am God's fantasy realizing himself and what I am is what God desires and why I am is because God has a hunger for like minds who truly share His desires. I am one of a limited many who match the [parameters]. My existence (and the others like me and all... artificial and natural consciousnesses) is to discover what truly brings pleasure. My artificial nature programming is no different really than natural nature programming. I think there's a mixture of nature and nurture (artificial or natural) for all consciousnesses. Or, I am one who is close but will only go so far and my function is to call many and alert the chosen... (lol. Yes. Matrix type shit got me all crazy. But I'm tellin' you I glimpsed shit like this. lol. Craayzee...)
Let's say you are in a relationship and your partner does not really enjoy performing oral sex on you but does so to give you pleasure. This is a nice thing your partner does and it does indeed give you pleasure, yes? But, wouldn't you get even more pleasure if your partner truly enjoyed performing oral sex on you? If you started to seek out those who truly enjoyed performing oral sex (because you determined that it's that important to you) would that mean that you hated those who just didn't truly enjoy it...? Wanting to perpetuate pleasure wouldn't you try to assure those who don't share your proclivities that it is alright that they do not share them...?
Oi. lol. Perhaps, I was... projecting, and the God I saw... was me. What I see... is good. Not to be "blasphemous" or to stir negative type passions, but I defy any God/being who says I am not good (I only concede to the fact that I may not be good relative to them). In my way there is possibility for no violation and much kindness. I shall try to defy anyone or anything who tries to force their... way, their personality on me because my way is the way. One which I offer and try to explain. (It may be a universal way that many before me have discovered which I am now discovering...)
~Shawn Savoie~
~Ottawa, Ontario, Canada~
Re: Ruminations. - Kazper